[blabus]

The progress thus far has been very impressive but the ultimate product the average person imagines as a "self-driving car", one where you can literally devote zero attention and do something else entirely while being driven around (and that handles effectively any edge case), is still quite a ways off.

[decimalenough]

Waymo is that ultimate product. Obviously it's not everywhere and you can quibble about what "effectively any edge case" means, but it's close to human level at being able to handle whatever the streets of SF throw at it.

[georgemcbay]

> able to handle whatever the streets of SF throw at it.

Not able to handle what the streets of Los Angeles throw at it, however.

[decimalenough]

I don't think human drivers would be much better at handling getting torched by mobs.

[klipt]

Maybe if the Waymo deployed an inflatable dummy passenger people would be like "oh there's someone in that car, better not torch it"?

[tsimionescu]

And yet human drivers keep using the LA streets, including human taxi drivers, while Waymo has paused.