[herbst]

As of now it's seems you can barely discuss any of this without someone getting political.

There are also many paths in between uncontrollably selling fireworks to anyone over 18 and banning it completely.

I would highly prefer some cities just openly banning it so people have places to go to to avoid it.

Edit:// also there are rockets and whatever without loud "boom" no idea why they aren't more common

[gitpusher]

It's important to understand that the firework situation today is VERY different from 5 years ago.

Before pandemic, big fireworks were only sold to professionals, and they were exploded at a pre-determined time and place. If you like big fireworks: no problem you can simply attend one of these shows. If you don't like fireworks: no problem just be somewhere else on that particular evening

Nowadays anyone can buy big stuff. And they are setting them off constantly. I live in an urban area and big BOOMs are going off all the time in my neighborhood, especially at night. I'm not sure how anyone can argue that this is OK or a matter of preference. It's a major disruptor to quality of life, and I wish all fireworks enthusiasts would get to experience this

If you ask me I would prefer a regression to the pre-2020 situation. Who knows. If kids weren't allowed to buy fireworks, Maybe the Palisades would still be here and my parents and all their friends would still have a house

[jvanderbot]

I like your take, as it provides a place for those who oppose it without making the massive leap from "I can find reasons to support my distaste for it" to "No one anywhere ever should do it".

Not to get too political, but in the USA, I always romanticized states as the places where enough people could gather under the "I don't like X" banner and make their own way, without neighboring states trying to use federal law to ban it anyway.

We're way past that though, sadly.

[herbst]

I was travelling Spain this year and there was nowhere to hide. The most remote places turned into outdoor festivals and everywhere else everyone below 20 or so was shooting around. My dog hated it, I did too. I never saw fireworks, just "boooom" going on for days.

The real surprise was that there was no major place advertising to at least ban the "boom" things. And that it was going on for about a week.

Compared to that being loud one night, in a civilized matter, focusing on beautiful and not loud stuff would be a tame alternative.