[unstablediffusi]

yes, there certain discrepancies between what men and women consider desirable in a partner, but we aren't really allowed to discuss this on the internet without certain folx coming out of the woods to claim that 2+2=5.

still, your claim does not invalidate my point, does it?

[lmm]

"There are no men available" and "women do not want the men who are available" are quite different situations with different solution spaces.

[unstablediffusi]

no, no, my point was neither of those things. my point was that "women past a certain age have slim chances of finding a man who would be willing to have children with them," and I don't think it's a particularly outrageous or controversial statement.

[lmm]

Then perhaps we have a real disagreement. I think for the vast majority of women over 30 there is a ready supply of men who would be willing to have children with them - just not men that those women would condescend to have children with.

[unstablediffusi]

which doesn't invalidate my point, does it? :)

I don't know where is that you live that men are so desperate and eager to commit to low-value women, but in the world I live in, men in their thirties are unmarried and/or childless by choice.

[disgruntledphd2]

Cultures differ wildly across the world. Where I live, the median age for a male to get married is 37, and the median age for women is 33 or so, so I would suggest that you not be so dogmatic (as an aside, US people seem to marry absurdly early for my tastes).

[lmm]

> which doesn't invalidate my point, does it?

Yes, it very much does?