[oddmiral]

Moreover, Germans decided that Slavs are untermensch because of Holodomor henocide of Ukrainians ([Little] Russians) by Russians (Great Russians). The confusion between [Little] Russians (now Ukrainians) and Great Russians (now Russians) caused Germans to think that Russians performed genocide of their own nation, killed millions of their own mothers and children, which is biggest sin in Germany (and many other nations).

[hackandthink]

This is Nazi talk.

That was the actual Nazi plan:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunger_Plan

The differentiation between Ukraine and Russia is interesting.

Ukrainian nationalists had also joined the Nazis.

[lostlogin]

> Ukrainian nationalists had also joined the Nazis.

This occurred in all occupied territories didn’t it? France, Holland, Belgium etc.

It also occurred in some that weren’t occupied. Spain for example, and don’t look too hard at the British Royal Family (for this reason and various others).

[defrost]

Also in North America, eg: https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/german-ame...

As with Ukraine a few Nazi's didn't represent the country nor even come close to a majority.

[oddmiral]

Few Ukrainians joined Nazi, few Jews joined Nazi, whole 3 million Russian Army joined Nazi. :-/

[hackandthink]

This is a hornet nest.

I once read this from Alain Badiou:

"This separatism at certain moments reached extremes that no one could forget, particularly not the Russian people, knowing that the vast mass of the Nazi-armed and organised armies coming from Russian territory were Ukrainian. The Vlasov army was a Ukrainian army. Today we can even read the history of Ukrainians turning entire villages to blood and fire, including French ones. A good part of the repression of the maquis in central France was carried out by Ukrainians. "

Wikimedia presents Vaslov's army as Russian:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Liberation_Army

But Wikipedia about Vlasov (SS Division here):

"He (Himmler) oversaw the creation of the SS-Volunteer Division "Galicia" in October 1943 from Ukrainian volunteers, but that same month he said that Vlasov made him "genuinely anxious."

https://www.versobooks.com/blogs/news/1569-a-present-default... https://www.versobooks.com/blogs/news/1569-a-present-default...

--- Badiou is a strange guy but I trust him.

In general, I have the impression that the historiography of the Nazi collobaration in Central Europe has been politically influenced in recent years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrey_Vlasov