[lancewiggs]

BYD is moving so quickly - the ones I’ve seen recently in NZ are surprisingly innovative, superb quality. Obviously not all markets are getting all vehicles, and the best are yet to leave China. Check out the EV Shark and Denza D9.

[dzhiurgis]

Im NZ too. BYD Tang L is pretty impressive technically (coming soon).

I almost want even larger, more powerful vehicle than my Model Y. But can’t imagine dealing with its software and uncertain future. Also I’d rather support Musk than Chinese.

I drove Atto3, which is older vehicle now. UX is nowhere close to Tesla, but I’m keen to try newer ones.

[beAbU]

> Also I’d rather support Musk than Chinese.

There are other EV makers out there, you know.

[dzhiurgis]

Hyundai/Kia are overpriced here and had some major failures so they can't be trusted (tho I do like Kia EV9 a little bit). Germans are overpriced by solid 2-3x. Japanese EVs are a total joke. Am I missing out someone?

[beAbU]

The french? The italians? The other american ev makers like Ford, Rivian, Chevy and so on?

[dzhiurgis]

Neither French nor Italians have any serious EVs that I know of.

Ford had some good clearance discounts on Mach-E (same with Polestar) here, made it a reasonable deal.

Rivian seems expensive in US to start with, in NZ it's waaaay past most peoples buying power.

Dunno if Chevy is available here at all.