[msgodel]

Again, if you really care to solve the problems you claim you want to solve you should pay attention to the logos, not the rhetoric, of what I wrote.

[tomrod]

Third party to your conversation, but I have no idea why you wrote what you wrote. Your argument was fully rhetoric, so I don't imagine you're meaningfully saying to ignore you?

[userlander]

By that logic, if you believe any policy is wrong, you should immediately advocate for secession rather than trying to change it. That seems weak to me. But go on, do you.