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by FridayoLeary 381 days ago
I'm honestly not sure what the balance is, but there is a point where one bad accident is worth less then many speeding tickets. It's obvious when you think about it- otherwise the speed limit would be 20 mph everywhere.

I'm really not sure where and how you draw the line but i do think we should err on the side of less surveillance. That's the predominant view on hn.
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gregjor 381 days ago
I agree that I prefer less surveillance. But I have little sympathy for people who break the law and put others at risk. We all lose some freedom because of a relative few who put their “rights” above the public good.

Rather than rampant surveillance I would support confiscating the car and cancelling the license of reckless drivers on the second offense, and DUIs on the first offense.

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owebmaster 381 days ago
> That's the predominant view on hn.

Only in the doge side of HN

> I'm honestly not sure what the balance is, but there is a point where one bad accident is worth less then many speeding tickets.

No amount of speeding tickets is worth one kid killed by a drunk driver.

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atmavatar 381 days ago
>> That's the predominant view on hn.

> Only in the doge side of HN

That's hardly true. I'm pretty far from the doge end of the spectrum, but I want as little surveillance as possible (ideally: only via court order).

You need only read about what impact a simple census question about religious affiliation had in the 1930s/40s to realize that information about yourself can very quickly be used for very dark purposes.

We've already seen stories about red states using data from social media and phone apps to target women who may have gotten abortions.

I can think of plenty of not so great ways red light camera data can be (and probably already is being) used for things completely outside the scope of merely automating speeding and red light crossing tickets.

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FridayoLeary 381 days ago
Did you read the article?

>No amount of speeding tickets is worth one kid killed by a drunk driver.

In an idealised plane of existence i agree with you, but real life is about finding the right balance.

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