[sedatk]

> I don’t think anyone actually believes that the language change is what made the difference in that post

They already admit in the article that JVM setup costs were a huge overhead during scaling operations. JIT might also incur a similar overhead at the same stage. So, not the language per se, but the runtime difference must have made a difference.

Compiled native code may not be too different between the two. But, in terms of memory management, Swift's ability to keep the heap in a smaller area might contribute to better cache utilization which might implicitly contribute to performance.

In the end, as you said, writing better code the second time might have made the greatest contribution of course. That doesn't necessarily mean that language change has made no difference.

[vips7L]

> They already admit in the article that JVM setup costs were a huge overhead during scaling operations. JIT might also incur a similar overhead at the same stage.

Yeah the startup costs are an active problem. I do think though that if they weren’t running an old runtime they wouldn’t have had the same GC issues.