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by thinkingtoilet 379 days ago
The privacy onus is entirely on the company. If Open AI is concerned about user privacy then don't collect that data. End of story.
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…the whole point of this story is that the court is forcing them to collect the data.
You're telling me you don't think Open AI is already collecting chat logs?
Yes.

In the API that is an explicit option, as well as in the paid consumer product as well. The amount of business that they stand to lose by maliciously flouting that part of their contract is in the billions.

I can't remember the last time a tech company has collected less data than they admit.

If you read the privacy policies you agree to, they have access to everything and outright admit it will be logged. That API option is merely a request, and absolutely need not be respected.

I can't believe we're still doing this rigamarole. If the product is not specifically designed, engineered, and open-sourced to be as privacy protecting as possible and it's not literally running on a computer you own, you have zero expectation of privacy. Once this has been proven 1 million times we don't need to prove it anymore, we can just assume and that's a very reasonable assumption.

You can trust Sam Altman. I do not.
"I'm wrong so here is a conspiracy so I can be right again".

Large companies lose far more by lying than they would gain from it.

No no, they are being forced to KEEP the data they collected. They didn't have to keep it to begin with.
Isn't the only way to do that is for ChatGPT to run locally on a machine? The moment your chat hits their server they are legally required to store it?
So if Microsoft gets a judge to compel Hacker News to give up your IP address, you'd be okay with that. Because it's 100% HN's fault for collecting the data in the first place? Are you a real person, er, toilet?