[that_was_good]

Except all users can opt out. Am I missing something?

It says here:

> If you are on a ChatGPT Plus, ChatGPT Pro or ChatGPT Free plan on a personal workspace, data sharing is enabled for you by default, however, you can opt out of using the data for training.

Enterprise is just opt out by default...

https://help.openai.com/en/articles/8983130-what-if-i-want-t...

[bartvk]

Indeed. Click your profile in the top right, click on the settings icon. In Settings, select "Data Controls" (not "privacy") and then there's a setting called "Improve the model for everyone" (not "privacy" or "data sharing") and turn it off.

[bugtodiffer]

so they technically kind of follow the law but make it as hard as possible?

[bartvk]

Personally I feel it's okay but kinda weird. I mean why not call it privacy. Gray pattern, IMHO. For example venice.ai simply doesn't have a privacy setting because they don't use the data from chats. (They do have basic telemetry, and the setting is called "Disable Telemetry Collection").

[atoav]

Not sharing you data with other users does not mean the data of a deleted chat are gone, those are very likely two completely different mechanisms.

And whether and how they use your data for their own purposes isn't touched by that either.

[agos]

what about all the rest of the data they use for training, there's no opt out from that