[ceejayoz]

I'd note this is hardly surprising; they were friends for years, and pictured/filmed together.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-epstein-...

> Flight logs released in 2021 as part of Maxwell’s trial, however, indicated Trump flew on the plane seven times.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tape-shows-donald-trump...

> The November 1992 tape in the NBC archives shows Donald Trump partying with Jeffrey Epstein at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate, now a private club, more than a decade before Epstein pleaded guilty to felony prostitution charges in Florida. At one point in the video, Trump is seen grabbing a woman toward him and patting her behind.

I've never quite understood why Trump's orbit put so much into "we're gonna release the files!"

[Tuperoir]

This. But I guess it is still a "scoop" for most.

Wait 'til you hear about the Queen !

[slater]

The queen is in the Epstein files?!

[ceejayoz]

Her son certainly is.

[Avshalom]

He rewarded the guy that let Epstein off. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Acosta

[_DeadFred_]

I mean there was this Fox interview no one found questionable:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZJorAVgHy7Y

[minimaxir]

It was confirmed that Trump was in Epstein's black book by Gawker back in 2015.

However, Musk tweeting about it now makes it an unavoidable news story.

[ceejayoz]

> However, Musk tweeting about it now makes it an unavoidable news story.

Nothing's stuck so far. Trump has what would've been a career-ending gaffe or scandal for any other pre-Trump politician on a daily basis. That includes 34 felony convictions.

[minimaxir]

This particular instance might have collateral damage which changes things. (e.g. Kash Patel and Pam Bondi poorly deflecting from the release of the files)

[const_cast]

You're absolutely correct. We have to acknowledge and face the reality that Trump-ism is a personality cult, not a rational movement or ideology. There is no platform, there is only faith. He could eat children and be excused, because a God is omnipotent. If he is wrong, it is actually us who are wrong, because who are we to question God?

[db48x]

Yea, but those felonies are the stupidest felonies ever invented. They literally convicted him because his accountant put “legal services” in the memo field for checks to his lawyer. They charged him with falsifying financial records, which is normally a misdemeanor, but upgraded it to felonies by claiming that he was hiding a bribe. But they didn’t actually charge him with bribery.

I don’t care if you like Trump or not; that trial was a travesty. No justice was served.

Clearly the best advice you or I can take from that is never to write anything at all in the memo field of a check (or the check stub or carbon copy, since that’s the part that is retained as a financial record) because the Feds will claim you lied if they can’t find anything else to charge you with.

[ceejayoz]

I’m sorry, but you should at least go read the Wikipedia summary of the trial. You missed some stuff.