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by bobsomers 377 days ago
They're not actually that great of an EV anymore. The build quality is lackluster and the ride on the Model 3 in particular is quite harsh.

Some of the comments I hear almost universally from prior Model 3 owners when they switch to an Ioniq 5 is how much nicer the ride quality is and how nice it is to have buttons on the dash again.

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I have a Model 3 2024 and the "ride quality" is beyond any other vehicle I've been in. I genuinely get a little excited every time I drive it. Best car I've ever been in or drove, and it's not close.
If you want to provide anything other than your isolated impression it'd be helpful to know what cars you're comparing it too. Civics? Audis? Ford F150s?

On the whole seems a little... over enthusiastic...

All this tells me is that you haven't driven very many types of vehicle.
The new Model 3 released in Jan 2024 has resolved the ride harshness
Is this like how Full Self Driving is always 12 months away? All the shortcomings of the Tesla you know and hate were solved in the latest model!
It’s nothing like that.

There have been comments around the ride harshness of the model 3. In the latest model it has been specifically fixed.

I think any self driving tech at the moment is just terrible and shouldn’t be used, for the record

Should all the current owners are expected to be happy for the new version they did’t own?
You should relax a bit. Model 3 ride was a bit 'sporty' compared to others. Some people like that, other prefer it softer. There really isn't a clear 'right' and 'wrong' here. But on avg. people seem to prefer it a bit softer, so they adjusted it slightly.

Successive version always do slight changes like that over time, that how car companies work. Old owners don't need to be happy about it, or think about it at all.

No, but prospective buyers don't need to worry about ride harshness anymore.
Supposedly. As far as I understand, whether it was fixed or not will be decided by a completely separate group of people. At some point, Tesla can just lie, and don't expect people will be able to verify.

I think Elon found a glitch it tech-bro reasoning: you promise a product, people believe you and buy it, then they realise that it is not what was advertised, but it is OK, because new version has it now, so you can't complain, it is your fault in the eyes of your peers, you should have made a better research or whatever.

Your FSD has almost got you killed? Don't worry, this is your fault, and anyway the bug was already fixed in the update. Probably. This time for sure.

And what will the prospective buyers need to worry about that the next next version will solve?

Tesla is a low-trust company. Too much grifting

If you bought a first gen android should you be mad that you didn't buy a second gen android?

Is this the new "how would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast yesterday?"?

No, but they should test drive the car before they buy it and decide if it is acceptable, just like everyone does when they buy a car.
No it's pretty good now. This isn't a software update. It's either softer or it's not. Of course it is subjective. There are plenty of cars with even softer rides, but they tend to feel a lot more floaty, especially in corners, and I personally don't like that.
Still ugly af. Wouldn't touch it. The only well designed car ever made was the model S, and even that is long in the tooth now and was due a refresh 5 years ago. But CYbeRtrUck ...

Combine that with FSD rubbish bait and switch, nutjob CEO, and the cratering of any brand goodwill ... I won't touch those cars if you paid me (seriously).

And honestly, I recognise the innate progression of the technology ... but others have caught and surpassed to the point that I don't have to worry about buying the lesser car anymore when I go elsewhere.

Is the 2025 Ioniq 5 still running a laggy and old looking Android 4 for its infotainment?