[pjerem]

Well, sure. Except that in most of the world outside SV, $200/month is expensive.

At least Cursor is affordable to any developer. Because most of the time, even if it’s totally normal, companies act like they’re doing you a favor when they pay for your IDE so most people aren’t going to ask an AI subscription anytime soon.

I mean, it will probably come but not today.

[kookamamie]

You can subcribe to the Max with 90€ a month, which isn't bad considering the effectiveness of Claude Code.

[greenknight]

Claude Code Pro ($17 per month) now supports it, just ends earlier

[kookamamie]

Pro does not support Claude Code, the agent. The docs say it does, but it wouldn't work yesterday when I actually tried it.

[bananapub]

it absolutely does, as of 18 hours ago or so. the docs were out of date wrt reality for a few hours at least.

[kookamamie]

Hah ok. I then just happened to try it out during their feature rollout.

[piperswe]

Claude Code was added to the Pro tier in the last day or two; they've been working out some kinks with it

[josefrichter]

Honestly, $200 is not expensive. Even just offloading some small tasks to a junior dev every now and then is incredibly cheap at $200.

[Avalaxy]

Did you choose to not read his full reply? I'll repeat it again for you:

> Except that in most of the world outside SV

[eloisant]

Even in a European with lower wages compared to US, total cost of a developer will be minimum 5000 euros/per month. And that's just salary with all taxes, not accounting laptop costs, office space, etc.

You just need a 4% increase of productivity to make those $200 worth it.

[bananapub]

> Even in a European with lower wages compared to US, total cost of a developer will be minimum 5000 euros/per month. And that's just salary with all taxes, not accounting laptop costs, office space, etc.

lolololol

> You just need a 4% increase of productivity to make those $200 worth it.

who “needs” that and who pays for it?

the employer for both?

high school economics class is not how the world works, regrettably.

[eloisant]

I guess the world doesn't work like that because employers don't even understand high school economics.

They'd rather have an employee spend 2 weeks on a task than shell out a few bucks at it, because they don't realize the 2 weeks of salary is more expensive than the external expense.

[redserk]

You’re making the erroneous assumption that the productivity gains would meaningfully generate revenue for the business to offset additional costs.

Plus development work is quite bursty — a productivity gain for developers does not necessarily translate into more prospects in a sales pipeline.

[raincole]

> so most people aren’t going to ask an AI subscription anytime soon

It's companies asking programmers to use AI, not vice versa.