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by mhss 375 days ago
Quite frankly sounds super boring. I prefer driving than supervising. Only true unsupervised autonomous driving would be interesting for me (e.g Waymo).
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But doesn’t Waymo autonomous driving only work in certain areas with hyper accurate maps?
Correct, because that combined with about $30k in sensors is the only true safe way to do it today.
More like $300k
> the only true safe way

An unsubstantiated claim given that there are many, many safe human drivers who have neither LIDAR sensors nor hyper-accurate pre-mapping at their disposal.

Quote the rest of the line please.
"today"? Are there not humans on the road today? There have been a number of safety issues with Waymos, certainly too many to describe them as the one true safe option, today.

Entertaining a No True Scotsmen is a bit of a silly exercise anyway, but this semantic game is extra silly.

The person you replied to was talking about how we can achieve safe autonomous driving today. When I remind you of that context, that your rebuttal is not actually rebutting what they said, I am not performing No True Scotsman.

The gap between humans and computers is enormous, not some weird gotcha tactic.

I took "it" to imply "autonomous driving." But I very much agree this is extra silly.
Yes. Once is available more widely to common car owners (either from Waymo or others) that would interest me. Current Tesla supervised style semi autonomous driving I would find either boring or stressful (depending on the scenario). I would rather drive myself.

Note Waymo announced a partnership with Toyota, pretty hand wavy, but at least it seems there’s hope the technology may come to regular car owners at some point.

100% me ... we're on the same page ... I've said it before. I don't want to become my cars manager ... I want to enjoy my driving.

I get that the vast majority aren't car enthusiasts and that's ok, but there is actual pleasure in driving.

And even me - when I want a rest from it - lane assist and cruise control are MORE than enough. I can even add these two to old classics without much bother.

Going all in on autonomy doesn't interest me at all.