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by lutusp 5058 days ago
> I don't really understand this view of therapy. In my experience, it's something you choose for yourself, because you recognize the need.

That would be nice, but it doesn't reflect reality. In schools, children are frequently given autism spectrum diagnoses against their better interests, or wishes, or the wishes of their parents (but not always -- sometimes parents force these things on their children). But the patient's wishes are often the lowest priority.

Ideally, people would volunteer for therapy solely on issues they choose for themselves. But this isn't how clinical psychology works in modern times. Schools have a vested interest in getting diagnoses, because special-education funds are only available for those with a diagnosis.

The reason Asperger's is being abandoned is because it was applied in exactly the way described above, until everyone realized it was a scam -- even the therapists who benefited the most. Now it's slated for removal from the next edition of the DSM, and further, the diagnosis criteria for autism spectrum is being reworked to prevent another epidemic of nonsense diagnoses such as we have just seen.

> The odds that you receive a psychiatric evaluation against your will and be compelled into therapy are amazingly slim.

On the contrary, it's an everyday occurrence, especially among children, who aren't mature enough to realize that psychologists aren't doctors.

> Especially for something like 'autism-spectrum' disorders, where the majority of sufferers appear to be high-functioning.

Yes, and that is the present problem area -- bogus diagnoses, using vague criteria that can be applied to nearly anyone, with obvious advantages to everyone except the patient.

Mental health professionals, aware that autism spectrum diagnoses are out of control and no longer have any connection to reality, have joined an American Psychological Association task force charged with redefining ASD to stem the tide of nonsense diagnoses. One of those behind the redefinition effort (Dr. Fred Volkmar, director of the Child Study Center at the Yale School of Medicine) says of the diagnosis surge, "We would nip it in the bud."

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You seem to be referring to info and quotes from this NY Times article

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/20/health/research/new-autism...

Dr. Volkmar --who you quoted-- is actually against the redefinition and is arguing that the redefinition hides people who do suffer from genuine conditions.

Here is a Yale interview of Dr. Volkmar that left me with a far different impression than the NY Times article:

http://yalemedicalgroup.org/autism2012

And this:

http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/2012/feb/02/autism-redefin...

> Dr. Volkmar --who you quoted-- is actually against the redefinition and is arguing that the redefinition hides people who do suffer from genuine conditions.

So that would be why Volkmar is serving on a task force charged with responsiblity for redefining ASD? That would be why he has been quoted as saying his committee would address the ASD diagnosis epidemic and "nip it in the bud"?

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/20/health/research/new-autism...

Quote: "The changes would narrow the diagnosis so much that it could effectively end the autism surge, said Dr. Fred R. Volkmar, director of the Child Study Center at the Yale School of Medicine and an author of the new analysis of the proposal. “We would nip it in the bud.”" (Emphasis added.)

To make this perfectly clear, Dr. Volkmar is an advocate of this change, and is one of the leaders of the activity.

"... Asperger's is being abandoned.... Now it's slated for removal from the next edition of the DSM"

REALLY??! Wow. I sure thought I was seeing a bunch of misguided hullabaloo, but I'm surprised to see the "industry" itself is aware of it and addressing it. Do you have a link or any kind of substantiation?

> Do you have a link or any kind of substantiation?

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/health/03asperger.html?pag...

The above is just one of the many links to this topic -- here's another:

http://www.npr.org/2010/12/29/132407384/whats-a-mental-disor...

It's important to say that DSM-V (the new edition of the diagnostic manual) is being compiled in secret, contrary to the open nature of science, and demonstrating that the psychological community are circling the wagons against what is certain to be a storm of criticism once it's published (slated for May 2013).

One of the tidbits that has slipped out of the secret process is that grief over the loss of a loved one will qualify for a depression diagnosis, which will allow the prescribing of drugs to treat this new "mental illness."

Further reading: http://arachnoid.com/trouble_with_psychology

    >Asperger’s syndrome... will be folded into a single broad diagnosis, autism spectrum disorder
^ FTA quoted as a source. It's not going anywhere, just re-labelling. There are definitely things behind AS, it's certainly not all just 'hullabaloo', even if a lot of cases might be.
> It's not going anywhere, just re-labelling.

Not really. Two things are happening:

1. Asperger's is being dropped as a diagnosis.

2. ASD diagnostic criteria are being redefined with the specific aim of reducing the number of diagnoses, to avoid another epidemic of nonsense treatments of people who, apart from being intelligent, are otherwise normal.

Further reading: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/20/health/research/new-autism...

> There are definitely things behind AS ...

Yes, there certainly are. It's a gold mine for clinical psychology, because anyone to the right of the mean population I.Q. can be diagnosed using the present criteria, and because of this kind of abuse, it's being abandoned -- it's just too tempting to apply it to everyone. As one of its prominent critics has said, "It's not an evidence-based term."