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The thing is that FSD and autopilot are human controlled just as cruise control is. Under current laws and disclaimers FSD very clearly puts the responsibility in the hands of the driver, just as one would expect with cruise control. See: https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/2020_2024_modely/en_us/GU.... Until it's truly autonomous the FSD driver is just as liable in that AZ scenario.

There's several safety issues in my opinion.

1. Tesla's are foreign to drive. Driving mine off the lot was terrifying. You've got a super sensitive rocket with unusual controls. The UX is actual pretty nice for most things but it takes getting used to.. and getting used to that with no instruction is dangerous. They just give you the keys and that's it. They hold free classes but beyond that you're on your own.

2. Related to 1, engaging and disengaging FSD/autopilot is not obvious. On my '23 with stalks you press down past drive to enable FSD or autopilot (which can only be changed when parked). It's not super obvious which one you have on, which can be dangerous. To disengage you either grab the wheel hard, press the brake, or tap up on the stalk. Grabbing the wheel makes you swerve in some situations / older versions. I never do that now but I had to learn the hard way. Pressing the brake at high speeds causes significant slow down due to regen braking so it's not ideal on highways. So that leaves the stalk going up which can easily put you in reverse at low speed. Something I've done accidentally in traffic on the highway as a new owner.

3. FSD and autopilot are so good that it's much easier to trust it than traditional level 2 systems like my Subaru's. That leads to complacency and that's pretty dangerous.

That said, while all these deaths are horrible, we don't see the positives in data. I believe that these systems have absolutely saved more lives than the associated fatalities. Humans are reckless on the road. Every person driving while looking at their phone is worse than FSD which prevents you from looking away. So it's not enough just to look at crashes, you have to consider preventive measures too. Remember the lady who killed a kid on a bike in Colorado while looking at her phone? FSD would have been a godsend there and we would have never known the wiser. https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaFSD/comments/1l02x27/fsd_saves...