[nabla9]

> but appear to strictly avoid showing their products in those shows.

Apple has 'villains can't use iPhones' rule. Directors are not allowed to use Apple product placement for villains.

Apple pushes their products in Apple TV+ and pays for product placements, or provides their products for free for other productions as as long as you follow the rules.

[lotsofpulp]

That is not true, just from first principles. You think anyone would watch Apple TV+ shows if there were no suspense or mystery because all the good guys use Apple stuff and all the bad guys use non Apple stuff?

[nabla9]

It is true.

You can't use first principles to make argument about easily verifiable facts. There are movies that use loopholes and gray areas, of course. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/feb/26/apple-doe...

[lotsofpulp]

That Rian Johnson interview got milked to high heavens for clickbait. Genius marketing by him, especially since he makes mystery movies.

Plenty of examples of bad guys using iPhones here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/13hrdak/comment...

https://www.reddit.com/r/television/comments/13hrdak/rant_ap...

[xboxnolifes]

Just have everyone use non-apple stuff? What?