[freedomben]

> > or some other country that doesn't respect international copyright though.

> Like the US? OpenAI et al. don't give a shit.

OpenAI is not a country and therefore cannot make laws that don't respect international (or domestic) copyright. Also the US is a lot bigger than OpenAI and the big tech corps, and the law is very much on the side of copyright holders in the US.

[diggan]

> the law is very much on the side of copyright holders in the US.

Remind me again what the status of the case is with Meta/Facebook using pirated material to train their proprietary LLMs, and even seeding the data back to the community while downloading it?

[SR2Z]

In progress. Nobody is expecting the original protections afforded by copyright to apply here, but the fact that the material is pirated is less relevant than whether or not an LLM is a transformative use of the material.

We will almost certainly see copyright law weakened by the case, but I do not believe that FB will get off with no penalties.

[gosub100]

The money is definitely in the side of big tech vs book publishers. There may be a nominal settlement to end the matter, perhaps after a decade of litigation