[Pet_Ant]

> There is nothing wrong with going to school to obtain knowledge and skills to secure a job.

That can't be the only goal. We also need to transmit culture, values, and teach them to become citizens.

[aydyn]

Teach them "values" as determined by a central governing authority?

[goatlover]

Yes, within a reason. Not in an authoritarian or dismissive manner. But the ideals of our western liberal societies.

[aydyn]

What happens if that centeal authority becoms subverted (as many people here would argue is the case right now)?

Doesnt that single point of failure indicate a weakness?

[Pet_Ant]

Values are your culture. The Nazis were elected and supported (at least initially) so you are right some what, but the answer is multiple countries.

But a country without a culture and without shared values is a sled being pulled by dogs in different directions and not a real team (as many people would argue has been the case for quite some time).

You need common values to work together to achieve goals. That's what a country is, people working together. When you don't, you just become tenants with passports.

[s1artibartfast]

you dont need 4-10 years of post-secondary school at 100k/yr to do that.

nor do our current institutions do a good job of what you describe.