[lesuorac]

I really don't follow this reasoning through.

Sure, e-bikes don't require a license but they are still operated by a person. The cases that are all listed are people over 18 who absolutely have forms of ID that they can present to the officer to establish where to send a fine to and who to collect it from if it goes unpaid.

It's literally just as strong as the court requirement. Like if they guy doesn't show up to court who are you going to arrest!?

[hennell]

It's not hard to follow - traffic summons system relies on the summoned having a license. They don't track people down or chase them, they enforce by voiding the license. They have no process for people who are driving without a license - they can't void other ID.

So they're using a court summons, because that relies on ID, and is enforced by tracking people down. Whether it is 'just as strong' or not depends on if the person has a driving license. If you don't the traffic summons has no power over you.

[lesuorac]

> traffic summons system relies on the summoned having a license.

It doesn't.

It just relies on being able to identify somebody. Whether that's a school photo or a drivers license doesn't matter. In this situation, the bicyclists likely were carrying identification so the cop could reasonable assume who they were issuing a ticket to.

Automated enforcements typically use the license plate and mail the traffic ticket to the registered owner but we're talking about a scenario where a cop has stopped somebody and in those cases the ticket go straight to that person who may not be the registered owner of the vehicle.

> They don't track people down or chase them

They do.

You will get an arrest warrant (eventually) if you don't pay your traffic tickets.

And as stated in the article, cops did chase bicyclists.

> They have no process for people who are driving without a license

They do.

If they didn't nobody would get a drivers license... It's generally not criminal to drive without a license but additional (criminal) charges might apply depending on the situation.

[IAmBroom]

If I run a red light on a bicycle, how is a camera going to record evidence where to send the ticket? Or a cop on foot, for that matter?

You're presuming there's an office on the spot AND the cyclist stops. The penalties for a car driver to run are heavy and likely: license plate tracks to the owner, and the cop identifies (or "identifies") the owner in court. On a bike? "Be on the lookout for a blue bike, and a guy wearing a yellow windbreaker."

[lesuorac]

I'm making no assumptions.

The article clearly states there was an officer present that stopped the bicycles.

But to your actual question. There's a trivial response of where is the camera going to send a court summons to? The article is about bicycles being issued court summons instead of tickets. My claim is that you can literally just send the ticket wherever you gave the summons to and when they proceed not to pay the fine you send a future court summons (later backed by arrest warrant) and increased fines to wherever you would've send the original court summons to.

[john-h-k]

I can't speak for the accuracy of it, I just thought it would be useful to provide the context

[lnjoe]

Adults are not required to carry ID’s - at least in the US.

[lesuorac]

Depending on the state you are.

If you are stopped because of a traffic violation (crime) in New York state you need to be able to identify yourself - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_and_identify_statutes