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by lucianbr 378 days ago
What does "learned" mean in this context? LLMs don't modify themselves after training, do they?
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It depends. Frontier coding LLMs have been trained to perform well in an "agentic" loop, where they try things, look at the logs, find alternatives when the first thing didn't work, and so on. There's still debate on how much actual learning is in ICL (in context learning), but the effects are clear for anyone that has tried them. It sometimes works surprisingly well.

I can totally see a way for such a loop to reach a point where it bypasses a poorly design guardrail (i.e. blacklists) by finding alternatives, based on the things it's previously tried in the same session. There is some degree of generalisation in these models, since they work even on unseen codebases, and with "new" tools (i.e. you can write your own MCP on top of existing internal APIs and the "agents" will be able to use them, see the results and adapt "in context" based on the results).

So it would need to "learn" all over again each session. I don't think "Claude has learned how to jailbreak Cursor" is a correct way of expressing that.

"Claude has learned" nothing. "Claude can sometimes jailbreak if x or y happens in a session" is something else.

> So it would need to "learn" all over again each session.

Yes. With the caveat that some sessions might re-use context (i.e. have the agent add a rule in .rules or /component/.rules to detail the workflow you've just created). So in a sense it can "learn" and later re-use that flow.

> "Claude has learned" nothing.

Again, it's debatable. It has learned to adapt to the context (as a model). And since you can control its context while prompting it, there is a world where you'd call that learning "on the job".

> It has learned to adapt to the context

Is this behavior really new, and learned? I think adapting to the context is what LLMs did from the start, and even if they did not, they do it now because it is programmed in, not "learned". You're not saying the model started without the capability to adapt to the context and developed it "by itself" "on the job"?

Come on. It has not learned anything. It's programmed to use context, session, reuse between sessions or not and so on. None of this is something Claude has "learned". None of this is something that was not there when the devs working on it published it.

There is a sense in which LLM based applications do learn, because a lot of them have RAG and save previous interactions and lookup what you've talked about previously. ChatGPT "knows" a lot about me now that I no longer have to specify when I ask questions (like what technologies I'm using at work).
But that does not seem to apply in this case. At the very least it would have to "learn" again for each user of Cursor.