[glimshe]

If we're around in 2000 and 2009, you've seen this before. Our field has ups and downs and every time we hit the bottom people say it won't come back. It will.

We had some cleaning up to do. I was a hiring manager during COVID and the resumes I saw were unbelievable. People with "web" boot camps being considered for 6 figure salaries. People who had absolutely no business being in this field were being hired.

It was due to the easy money from low interest rates. This field always had solid salaries but some people were making a million to sit on meetings and integrate frameworks into me-too websites.

The hammer is coming down and is unfortunately hitting many good people too. But they will recover while the people who shouldn't be here will move on. Don't get your HVAC repair certification quite yet. Stop complaining about AI and go study it (the hard stuff not ChatGPT for dummies).

[jaybrendansmith]

Well put. And this happened back in 2000, and 2009. I had people who I knew from direct experience to be non-technical slackers tell me about their IT Director jobs. I knew it wouldn't last then, and I'm not surprised now. Just get out of your comfort zone and start looking, and if you are in a bad situation don't be cowed. If you are truly technical this is always valued, despite the easy answers from ChatGPT, you must understand what it is telling you to really make use of it.

[ponector]

It's not the AI, it's outsourcing who really killing IT jobs. Even from relatively cheap East Europe projects are being moved to India, Vietnam and Philippines.

[glimshe]

I've also been hearing this for 25 years now... Outsourcing also happens in waves.