[whytevuhuni]

> But genuinely, why are you so strident about using the term if you clearly have a more precise understanding of what you want to communicate?

Because, up until I've read your comment, I've seen the term used with my definition pretty much everywhere, so I believe it's a fairly well understood and agreed on term, with you being more of an exception.

[MangoToupe]

We all have our opinions and perspectives. Typically, people who agree with eachother don't beat this conversation to death every time the term comes up. Frankly, nobody has ever made the case to me the term is worth using iin the first place outside of protecting some misplaced sense of pride. Until you, I wasn't aware anyone outside of enterprise c/c++ coders took the term seriously.

But, if you didn't read and acknowledge the submission that "systems" is more of a culture than some association with a language, I think this conversation is over. I'm super happy you know what a pointer is, bro. Good luck socializing.