[maximus-decimus]

At the university level, should you really take students by the hand like that and trick them into learning? You have to learn to learn at some point.

[eviks]

How is your argument relevant to cheating? And why are the universities not at the university level since they mandate this practice?

[maximus-decimus]

You were saying that assignments are needed otherwise students won't do them and then fail the exam. That's what I was answering to. And it's relevant to cheating on assignments because the thread was about not grading assignments to avoid people cheating on assignments.

I don't understand your second question. Currently, university assignments are graded to hold students by the hand. I'm saying they shouldn't do that.

[eviks]

> And it's relevant to cheating on assignments because the thread was about

The thread was abou that, but your argument wasn't, it suggested an alternative reason for rejecting assignments, so would be true regardless of cheating, thus not related to this thread

[maximus-decimus]

It's related in the sense I think stopping cheating should take priority over taking students by the hand.

But I guess I let through that yes, I don't think we should take students by the hand at all and you're right that's a whole different debate.