[brookst]

I was a bigger fan of the certain doom in 2025, and I think the AI 2030 movement will have better design sense and storytelling. But really I haven’t seen anything that really has the oomph and fire of Tipper Gore’s crusade against youth music.

We need more showmanship, more dramatic catastrophizing. I feel like our current crop of doomers isn’t quite shameless enough to be really entertaining.

[nosianu]

A significant thing to keep in mind for non-extinction doomerism is that individual experiences vary greatly. There may be a significant number of people or groups that really do experience what was predicted.

Similar to how the experiences of average rise in temperature (I would prefer if they had used the term "energy") differ greatly dependent on the region.

Also similar to "the country is doing well, look at the stick market and the GDP".

I think everybody who wants to have an actually serious discussion needs to invest a lot more effort to get tall those annoying "details", and be more specific.

That said, I think that "AI 2027" link looks like it's a movie script and not a prediction, so I'm not sure criticizing it as if it was something serious even makes sense - even if the authors should mean what they write at the start and themselves actually take it seriously.

[brookst]

100% agreed! We think about the industrial revolution and the rise of word processors and the Internet as social goods, but they were incredibly disruptive and painful to many, many people.

I think it’s possible to have empathy for people who are negatively affected without turning it into a “society is doomed!“ screed

[pram]

its literally just the plot of “Colossus: The Forbin Project” so it isnt even original lol