[zbentley]

All very fair points! I think it is perhaps much more situational than I made it out to be, and that functioning in an “hours” environment is only possible as described if some organizational patterns are in place to make it work.

[dalyons]

yeah i realized as i wrote that out that my personal conclusions probably don't apply in a monoservice type architecture. If you have a mono(or few) service architecture with a single (or few) db, it is actually feasible to have integration tests that are worth the runtime. The bigger & more distributed you get, the more the costs of integration tests go up (velocity, fragility, maintenance, burden of mirroring production config) and the equation doesnt pencil out anymore. Probably other scenarios where im wrong also.