[julkali]

I think there is a fundamental misconception of the benefit / performance-improvement of LLM-aided programming:

Without sacrificing code quality, it only makes coding more productive _if you already know_ what you're doing.

This means that while it has a big potential for experienced programmers (making them push out more good code), you cannot replace them by an army of code monkeys with LLMs and expect good software.

[neom]

I keep reading this but I feel it really ignores gaussian, where are your lines? What is good enough for what where? What is the base level of already know? I'm churning out a web app for fun right now with a couple of second year comp sci students from Sri Lanka + LLMs, they charge me around $1000 a month and my friend who is a SRE at appl looks at the code every week, said it's quality, modern and scalable. I do think they're a bit slow, but I'm not looking for fast.

[philipwhiuk]

You're paying $1000 a month to build a web app for fun?

This seems like a crazy solution to a situation.

[neom]

...wait till you find out how much my one friend spends on golf a year!!!!! Hobbies are expensive. This will take about 3 maybe 4 months, and I think i'll enjoy playing it with and so will all my friends and family, so it's worth it I think.

[da02]

What type of work does he do that allow him to spend on hobbies? (In other words, "What can I do to be wealthy like your friend?".)

[zeroonetwothree]

Well… many hobbies are not that expensive. But sure, $1k/month for enjoyment is totally reasonable.

[nyarlathotep_]

> you cannot replace them by an army of code monkeys with LLMs and expect good software.

"Good" software only matters in narrow use cases--look at how much money and how many contracts companies like Deloitte and Accenture make/have.

Sure, you can't "vibe" slop your way to a renderer for a AAA title, but the majority of F500s have no conception of quality and do not care nor know any "better."