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> > I'm pointing out the reality to people claiming that "oh it's so easy to maintain any kind of hobbies and/or social life without spending a penny".

> Not any, but a sufficiently large amount of options.

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> tents, blankets, bikes, train rides, bakery...

(also, depending on amount of hiking also shoes, backpacks and some other gear)

To quote myself, "Oh, I'm sure you do plenty [of things], you just don't assume there are expenses in what you do. I'm not claiming they are huge expenses. I'm just saying things are not free"

> No need to question their ability to take care of themselves

There's only one need: to read what your opponent actually writes.

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Ok, so you feel not heard with what you wrote, and thus assumed I didn’t read what you wrote. Sounds like you feel attacked by my perspective, and misunderstood. And then turned it completely unnecessarily into an insinuation. I understand this is standard procedure for many but I am not interested in insinuations and consider them to be violent speech. There are other ways to express discontent.

I’ve been gifted 3 used tents in my life, and offered a lot more. You do not even need your own and can join friends in theirs. In most places there are free bikes that need less than $20 in parts to repair. Friends of mine collect free bikes by the dozen and repair them in their community bike shop, as volunteers for a non-profit. And so on. Nowhere did I mean to imply that you might not benefit from money. The topic is not about free living, but living on the cheap.

That being said, I know people who lived completely moneyless on purpose, as a challenge, a life experience, and without suffering/unfulfilled needs.