[vladms]

Let's not ignore though that there are some people with some control. These systems do not appear because of a small conspiracy but because a lot of people think they are OK and don't bother to understand the issues and organize to fight them.

I know an ex-policemen that is a good man but hated working in the police because the "public" was aggressive and were challenging them constantly (would not name the country or specific stories). From their point of view "automatization" would make police job safer and easier, and convincing them of the contrary has few chances.

The more "not-connected" is the society (with people not having a friend that is "a policeman", "a firefighter", "a teacher", etc), the more problems we will have no matter the technology...

[xboxnolifes]

It's a big problem that the people who police a communitily are frequently not a part of the community.

[hiatus]

Is it? Wouldn't corruption be more likely if policing were generational in a small town?

[xboxnolifes]

I didn't say they should be generational, I said they should be part of the community they serve. I find it really odd when I hear about police officers who live 45 minutes outside of the city they work in, and actively do not want to live there. That cannot make for a good dynamic.

[freeone3000]

Why would I want to be friends with someone who murders with impunity? Who considers “the public” someone to control? Who considers themselves above question?

[blooalien]

> Why would I want to be friends with someone who murders with impunity? Who considers “the public” someone to control? Who considers themselves above question?

Because they're not all that way, and some of them still do genuinely try to "Protect and Serve"? And then you have the others mentioned "fire fighters", "teachers", etc, again many of whom are just tryin' to do some good in the world. Hunt all those good ones down and hold them up as examples of how the rest should be trying to do their jobs. Just complaining about the bad ones and acting like they're the only ones certainly doesn't make the situation any better for them or us.

[freeone3000]

Maybe they’re not all like that, but the person I responded to said one particular ex-cop was a “good man” who simply needed to ensure the public didn’t question him. This is not a good man.

[vladms]

It wasn't about simply questioning. I do not want to repeat his stories as I did not live them and it would defeat the purpose.

I just encourage you to meet people and talk to in person to them rather than think in "classes": "them", "the police", "etc". Some (or many?) are normal, reasonable people, and we need to find a solution together not only "fight" and "blame".