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by chrisco255 387 days ago
> those foundational industries come from traditionally "Blue Cities" that have expanded to fill the state as those industries have grown.

In the 50s and 60s, when Silicon Valley was founded, it was heavily Republican. David Packard was a conservative. Nixon and Reagan were CA Republicans. In the early 90s it flipped blue, partially due to demographics and partly because Gore and Clinton (both Southern Democrats) courted them and pursued pro-tech policies, in particular Gore played a role in opening up the internet to commercial markets, enabling the dot com boom of the 90s.

CA flipped blue largely because of migration into the state from Asia and Mexico, and a shift in industries and focus post-Cold War, as well as some trends towards environmentalism and social progressivism while the GOP became more socially conservative in the 90s.

> A faster time to market is beneficial for companies, but it's also an excuse to avoid quality, safety, and ethics.

A faster time to market is beneficial to human progress. By slowing everything down by a factor of 5 humanity shrinks in its potential, dramatically so, and it hurts the trajectory of our whole country in the face of rivals that move at lightning speed with no such pretenses. In large part, its just bureaucratic rot that holds back everything in the name of safety or ethics while we conveniently import things from nations which have no such ethics. You simply export the problem at the cost of long term financial, industrial, and logistical security. The Tesla HQ was built in Texas in 14 months perfectly safely and soundly.

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>In the 50s and 60s, when Silicon Valley was founded, it was heavily Republican. David Packard was a conservative. Nixon and Reagan were CA Republicans. In the early 90s it flipped blue, partially due to demographics and partly because Gore and Clinton (both Southern Democrats) courted them and pursued pro-tech policies, in particular Gore played a role in opening up the internet to commercial markets, enabling the dot com boom of the 90s.

David Packard is one person versus literally 99.9% of technical workers and innovators that held more progressive views of the future and technology.

>CA flipped blue largely because of migration into the state from Asia and Mexico, and a shift in industries and focus post-Cold War, as well as some trends towards environmentalism and social progressivism while the GOP became more socially conservative in the 90s.

This is just not true. Most large cities in America shifted blue due to population density in general and the wants that arise through dense population alone. I'm not going to argue with you but I can tell you that is very obviously not the whole picture and politicians position have little to do with how innovators and technologists identified politically.

>A faster time to market is beneficial to human progress. By slowing everything down by a factor of 5 humanity shrinks in its potential, dramatically so, and it hurts the trajectory of our whole country in the face of rivals that move at lightning speed with no such pretenses. In large part, its just bureaucratic rot that holds back everything in the name of safety or ethics while we conveniently import things from nations which have no such ethics. You simply export the problem at the cost of long term financial, industrial, and logistical security. The Tesla HQ was built in Texas in 14 months perfectly safely and soundly.

Texas also loves to cover up any problems they have, and had one of the worst power crises due to traditional conservative business practices recently. So if you want to compare examples we can, I have hundreds more about how ignoring ethical and environmental concerns is net negative for America and the world.

What do we gain by having an Tesla HQ in Texas? They literally moved there for the exact reason we're talking about. They wanted to avoid dotting their i's and crossing their t's and they can do that in Texas. Building a new Tesla HQ is not "Progress"