[rvnx]

I'm sure they did not, but the rich guys win, even if they do something truly illegal.

If they would have respected the laws, OpenAI would not have been able to create AI models at all (as they are derivatives of copyrighted works).

So it's pure piracy of content at scale. The same with Veo3.

Is it beneficial to humanity ? Probably yes.

Is it harmful to content creators ? Absolutely but in the long-term, they have little chances to survive, no matter if legal or not, because this is both what the market and consumers want.

For example, these people on Fiverr selling blog posts, it was minimum 200 USD per blog post, and few days of turnaround.

Now with AI it's 0.01 USD and instant.

[birken]

It is difficult to say this is what consumers want, when right now consumers are getting the best of both worlds: The ease of AI agents without the long-term negative consequences of destroying the publishers who created all the high quality training data in the first place.

I think in the long term the highest quality content creators are going to find ways to keep their information out of AI training data, and put it behind walled gardens.

[Gud]

They could have stuck to works that are in public domain.

[freetanga]

Leaving outside the ethical part of it - which is huge, this kills innovation.

The problem I see is that when everything is iterative, and you kill sustainable incentives for new views, innovation disappears.

Is like the movies. We will get all budget towards remakes and reboots, and little new would show up.

Being an 80s guy, I remember many new movies coming out every year, and when they stretched beyond 2 or 3 films, people frowned.

Back to the future, Indy (the good years), Rambo (first 3), lethal weapon. Cool gems came up too (Last action hero?Terminator) even in loaded fields like simple action movies…. Star Wars, 3 films. Matrix. bond was the exception.

Now? mission impossible (8 films at over 2h), fast and mediocre franchise (20 movies), Marvel and DC movies (3 movies shot 30 different times), and everything else is a reboot. Almost impossible for new ideas to get through.

We are killing culture, innovation and human spark for some companies to make a billion more. We are feeding like factory pigs from generic slop, and as the factories grow they kill fertile ground for those who wanted to eat something cleaner.

The fact that is happening does not mean it’s right. It’s just we are accepting mediocrity as our guiding principle at 0.01 USD a pop…

[mistrial9]

are you the same guy that gives free coffee to the crooked county sheriffs on their way to take most of a year's harvest on the basis of fake laws?