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by libraryatnight 386 days ago
Genuine question from someone ignorant about that ignorance: I'm aware of some desire for Quebec independence, I'd never heard of similar for Alberta. Is it extra propaganda value to stoke the independence movement somewhere it's less prevalent in hopes it riles up the area where it already is more pronounced? Assuming it is more pronounced - as I am not well informed on Canadian politics.
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DISCLAIMER: This is from the perspective of a Quebecker, not an Albertan.

Alberta separatism is something that has been floated at various points in the zeitgeist, but for many, many reasons[0], I have mostly heard it spoken about unseriously by all but few on the fringe.

The Quebec sovereignty movement came on the wings of the Quiet Revolution[1] which had critical mass and large support from the francophone population which made up the vast majority of the province.

[0] It's unpopularity among alberans and impracticality as a landlocked province, being chief among them.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiet_Revolution

I am American but I know many conservative Canadians that this was basically the last straw. I am not even sure conservative is the right word. Just not liberal. They work a trade, like bars, beer, hockey and hanging out. They really don't care about politics at a deep level.

I had been sick of hearing them complain about Trudeau for years.

They thought it was obvious things were going to swing the other way and instead the country voted to stay on the same path that Trudeau literally resigned from.

Canada is basically a one party state at this point. It would be like if the only US media was the NY Times, MSNBC and CNN. The media jumped on Trump's comments about the 51st state and swung the election with ease.

It is not just Alberta, the people I know are in Ontario but there is nothing they can do. They would for sure move to Alberta if this happened. It will all be framed like this is some crazy fringe idea though even though 19 of 20 Canadians I know would agree.

The absurd thing to me with Alberta separatism is that there is no way the US would allow this. They would be a defenseless resource rich territory for Chinese infiltration.

Canada is in huge trouble. They are basically single party, money laundering haven at this point with a Soviet style media brainwashing regime.

Ultimately, In the long run I think Canada ends up a casualty caught in the cross fire between the US and China.

The reason the LPC keeps getting elected has a lot to do with the CPC pandering to quacks and pretty consistently picking pretty bad party leaders.

Conservatives should be more upset about Erin O’Toole losing to Trudeau than about Poilievre losing to Carney - that was more indicative of a bad party leader winning over a better one.

I live in Alberta, I voted Carney not because I care much for the liberals, though him being from Edmonton was a nice touch.

It was a vote against Poilievre, I'm not a fan of career politicians, less of those who only seem to have slogans and no bills with their names on them (well okay he got one passed).

I was slightly hopeful he'd take his pension and fuck off, yeah I'm in the trades too.