[ghaff]

Coordinating teams, talking to stakeholders/customers (including spending a lot of time with them), having someone manage individual contributors at some level, etc. is work that can't just be ignored at a company of any size. The only way to avoid (a lot of) it is to be very small and that has its own set of issues.

[bluefirebrand]

Sure, but do we really need four layers of people to do all of that?

It's really common to see just layers and layers of management at companies that get big enough

[ghaff]

For a big enough company? Probably. Someone isn't going to effectively manage 100 or 500 people.

[lyu07282]

I mean don't bite the boot that you can lick amirite