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by algorias 388 days ago
No, people get ill from excessive quantities of alcohol.
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Acetaldehyde is always toxic, so no, they always get sick, just less sick.
Getting drunk is literally poisoning yourself. Some humans just happen to enjoy the symptoms of said poison.
Kind of reminds me of dolphins taking turns chewing on pufferfish, apparently for fun/altered states.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/dolphins-seem-to-u...

Most people aren't getting drunk every time they drink.

Try wine and grape juice side by side. Baring truly awful wine, the wine will taste better (I suppose you could have awful grape juice too, but, you get the idea).

Taste is subjective. To people not used to consuming any alcohol the wine might taste worse than plain grape juice.
Sure, but it's a taste people have spent a couple thousand years working on, and it's remained popular through huge changes in culture and diet. People clearly like it.
Some people, sure, but not all people.
Context and experience shape so much of how we taste things
> Try wine and grape juice side by side. Baring truly awful wine, the wine will taste better

The unfermented juice of wine grapes has many similarities to the wine it would produce if fermented. "Grape juice" is usually pretty one note, just sweet.

Sure, but if alcohol didn't get you drunk consumption would plummet 95%.
I wouldn't be so sure... I'm certain my own would increase. (Assuming 'get you drunk' means something like 'contain ethanol' i.e. no 'buzz' or whatever but also no adverse effect on liver, the next day, ...).

If you want a cold drink that isn't sweet, your choices are pretty much alcohol, alcohol-free alternative, water.

>If you want a cold drink that isn't sweet, your choices are pretty much alcohol, alcohol-free alternative, water.

Uh, no.

There's also seltzer, flavored seltzer, flavored water, iced tea, iced coffee, herbal infusions (like hibiscus, rooibos, honeybush, etc), broth, milk and plant based milk alternatives, and fermented drinks like kombucha + kefir. That's just off the top of my head.

Hibiscus even has the benefit of helping regulate blood pressure.

I almost never drink sweet drinks or plain water and rarely drink alcohol. My fluid consumption is almost entirely: hot tea, iced tea, kombucha, and hibiscus infusion. Sometimes seltzer. Sometimes coffee.

Tea and coffee don't have to be sweet either, and there are lots of cold versions of those.
Also plenty of traditional cold drinks that are savoury or can be savoury: doogh, ayran, lassi, jaljeera, buttermilk, kvass
To be fair, the concept of iced tea as an objective desire is considered the provenance of blasphemous original sin by a not insignificant percentage of natives where the parent hails from.
That seems unlikely. Non alcoholic drinks are already an enormous market, and people would have less reason to limit consumption with the health downside removed.
If you hate the taste of alcohol (like me), I think the grape juice would taste better
I like beer and I think the taste of wine is absolutely vile.
Totally agree. I love beer. I just love it. I would drink beer all day if it didn’t have that damned alcohol in it.

I like alcohol too, but not nearly as much as I like beer. Kinda sounds nonsensical, but that’s how I feel!

The dose makes the poison.