[alephnerd]

> people are are told to hire h1 only -- not explicitly -- but implicitly

I've funded and worked at a number of companies in the Enterprise SaaS space, and that's bull. I'm not saving any costs with a Visa sponsored employee.

At that point I may as well fully offshore to a GCC.

[corp8drone8sf]

))) Yeah that's bull. I'm not saving any costs with a Visa sponsored employee.

It often isnt about saving money, it is about having fragile immigrant workers on a leash that you can control with the constant threat of layoff--->deportation

[supportengineer]

I’ve watched this abuse firsthand for most of my career, over 25 years

[red-iron-pine]

> It often isnt about saving money, it is about having fragile immigrant workers on a leash that you can control with the constant threat of layoff--->deportation

and also the carrot of actual sponsorship. two paths to motivation.

and some will get made into full-timers -- I've seen it -- but it just centralizes control

[alephnerd]

If it's control, you get the same in CEE and India with restrictive non-compete clauses that would make Illinois look like an open market, frivolous lawsuits, and no-objection certificates. Control doesn't impact my bottom line.

Reality is, H1B hiring is just as impacted as normal hiring in the US.

[corp8drone8sf]

If you were right, we wouldnt have millions of h1s being hired in the US.

You cant have offshore workers away from family, alone in a foreign country, with an RTO mandate, and glued to a desk in SF, constantly worried about deportation. This is about control, power, and abuse.

[SpicyLemonZest]

We don't have millions of H1Bs being hired in the US. The exact number isn't tracked but I don't think any estimate puts it at more than a million.

[WarOnPrivacy]

> We don't have millions of H1Bs being hired in the US.

I think parent means over the long term. The dynamic they're describing has been in place a long time.

[ggandv]

I just googled and in 2024 there >200k approvals for Indian nationals. That’s one year, one source country. And I believe that’s capped. Over time, it must be millions.

[cuteboy19]

200k is the cumulative number

[franktankbank]

When shits tight H1B should be the first thing impacted. Whole point of the program is that there is a supposed lack of supply. Nevermind though because the whole thing has become a machine of bribes grift and kickbacks. No wonder you would jump to its defense as a beneficiary of the machine.

[spacemadness]

You don’t speak for the entire industry.