[dsr_]

The ongoing problem with popcon is that it's known not to be accurate, but since it's the data that's available, people make decisions based on it.

popcon is least likely to be turned on by:

- organizations with any kind of sensible privacy policy (which includes almost everyone running more than a handful of machines)

- individuals concerned about privacy

popcon is most likely to be turned on by Debian developers, and people new to Debian who have just installed it for the first time.

[deng]

Yeah, isn't that a shame? Wouldn't it be nice if instead of catastrophizing that telemetry data is always only ever there to spy on us, that we might assume that there are actually trustworthy projects out there? Especially for FOSS projects, which can usually not afford extensive in-house user testing, telemetry provides extremely valuable data to see how their software is used and where it can be improved, especially in the UX department, where many FOSS is severely lacking. This thread here is a perfect example of this kind of black/white thinking that telemetry must be ripped out of software no matter what, usually based on some fundamental viewpoint that anonymity is impossible anyway, so why bother even trying. This is not helping. I usually turn on telemetry for FOSS that offers it, because I hope they will use this to actually improve it.

[LtWorf]

Turning it on and being unable to turn it off aren't the same.

[hulitu]

> I usually turn on telemetry for FOSS that offers it, because I hope they will use this to actually improve it.

And if they, or someone else, use this for RCE ? Asking for a friend. /s