[rcxdude]

>The problem the industry faces isnt that juniors dont grow it's that they spend up to 18 months being a drain on productivity after which point they tend to leave.

This is largely a result of the compensation behaviour of the industry. A junior that gets hired and grows does not get a raise in their salary to the market rate, the only way for them to get the compensation commensurate with their new skills is to leave and get hired somewhere else. Companies can avoid this problem by not doing this.

[pydry]

thats kind of my point. if theyre going to subsidize a junior being trained and then pay market rate at the end why not just avoid the subsidy bit and poach somebody else's pretrained junior?

It's kind of a tragedy of the commons effect except the "tragedy" is for tech employers - who are stroppy coz other companies dont have to provide their workers with a free sushi bar so why should they????