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by skarz 391 days ago
Is 'grokked' a common verb now? I had never even heard the word until Musk's AI.
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A common verb "now"??

> Grok (/ˈɡrɒk/) is a neologism coined by the American writer Robert A. Heinlein for his 1961 science fiction novel Stranger in a Strange Land. While the Oxford English Dictionary summarizes the meaning of grok as "to understand intuitively or by empathy, to establish rapport with" and "to empathize or communicate sympathetically (with); also, to experience enjoyment",[1] Heinlein's concept is far more nuanced, with critic Istvan Csicsery-Ronay Jr. observing that "the book's major theme can be seen as an extended definition of the term."[2] The concept of grok garnered significant critical scrutiny in the years after the book's initial publication. The term and aspects of the underlying concept have become part of communities such as computer science.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok

Yes, "now". According to Google Trends[0] there was little to no search interest in the term until December 2023.

Usage of 'grokked' on HN: 1,147[1]

Usage of 'hacked' on HN: 37,272[2]

[0] https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=g...

[1] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

[2] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

I do not think "hacked" is a good comparison, does not "to grok [smth]" mean "to understand [smth]"?
Yes, it means to understand. First book from Manning that uses this verb is from 2016 [1]

[1] https://www.manning.com/books/grokking-algorithms

Compare this with Google trends for grokKED (to compare with the hacker news trend):

Google trend for grokKED: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=g...

I never knew the etymology [0] but always knew the word for as long as I've been into computing (90's) .. apparently it's from the 1960's from a Heinlein novel!

[0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok

I first learned of from the Jargon File, long before Grok the product existed: https://www.catb.org/jargon/html/G/grok.html
Started hearing about it in ~2022 when some ML researchers accidentally left a model training on over a weekend. For a while the model wasn’t doing much (so they were going to turn it off) and then over the weekend it got surprisingly good.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grokking_(machine_learning)

It was a word before, as far as I remember. Saw it a few times here.
What does it even mean?
To understand and comprehend something in fullness. To reach the depths of the concept, idea, or entity so deep that you are practically one with it. (This is per my recollection of the Heinlein story, where grokking one in fullness was the highest form of respect.)