[dbushell]

Doesn't inspire confidence.

I guess we’ll see soon enough what Deploy will become since that's "imminent".

KV is dead if they've no desire to develop it out of beta and are working on something new. No reason to ever use it for a new project now.

Fresh is being refactored with an alpha in "late Q3 2025 (likely September)". It was a fairly basic framework to being with. The no compilation/build step was the only interesting idea and that's going away.

The runtime is actively developed but I find this statement amusing:

> We’re not chasing feature parity with other runtimes.

The release notes on Node/NPM compatibility would suggest otherwise.

[pier25]

> KV is dead

Yeah this is a terrible move. Companies aren't relying on KV precisely because it's in beta not because it was a bad idea. I use Cloudflare Workers KV a lot and I'm not interested in durable objects. I was really interested in Deno KV until now.

Plus the optics of announcing a product and abandoning it are not good. Ryan is a great technical guy but these decisions don't look good from a strategic perspective.

[fallinditch]

> KV is dead if they've no desire to develop it out of beta and are working on something new. No reason to ever use it for a new project now.

I think you're right, I was just about to use it for something but now I'm considering other options...