[90s_dev]

I've learned from the so-called experts for years. I studied directly under them. I spent so many years trying to find the perfect way to do TDD and BDD. I saw their own code and their own solutions up close. They're frauds. It was all a sham.

[MoreQARespect]

I'd be shocked if it wasnt because they also led you to make the two primary mistakes i refered to above.

[90s_dev]

Ah so you're the guru I should have studied under all those years. If only.

[MoreQARespect]

Perhaps. More than a famous guru I find most companies badly need a testing framework that can simulate 90% of possible scenarios hermetically and lack somebody who can build that.

Once you have that and somebody has taken you around the block 3 or 4 times pairing with TDD on your app it usually starts to make more sense.

On my team after I inculcated the TDD habit properly, BDD came naturally. I didnt even encourage them to have conversations with the PO while screensharing the tests. They dont even know that's called BDD.