[skrause]

Germany isn't ramping up gas imports, it's replacing both nuclear and coal with renewables.

And even though gas power plants are the designated backup power plants for times when there is neither enough sun nor wind, this doesn't actually happen often enough that you need even more gas. So gas consumtion in Germany is actually projected to decline by at least 50% until 2040 [0].

[0] https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/energie-nachfrage-nach-gas...

[ktgkdodfm]

>And even though gas power plants are the designated backup power plants for times when there is neither enough sun nor wind,

Doesen't that mean that they need to build the capacity to cover their full use regardless(expensive), just that less fuel(cheap) is burned?

[dns_snek]

No, unless you're anticipating that winds will drop to 0 not just across entire Germany, but across the EU.

[ktgkdodfm]

What kind of capacity can Germany rely on to receive from other countries when it's own production is zero? Someone has to have reliable capacity somewhere, usually basic infrastructure such as electricity is built on guarantees, unless Germany has decided it's okay to get blackouts when it's not windy and neighboring countries would rather use their power themselves

[dns_snek]

There are no guarantees in life, only probabilities. People much smarter than us can determine how much spare capacity the EU needs from non-intermittent sources to make electric blackouts a 500-year event, just like they do with building standards related to earthquakes.

I don't know what the number is, but it's probably greater than 0 and definitely less than the total peak EU demand, and if I had to guess I would say it's probably closer to 20%.

[philwelch]

Germany’s gas consumption is going down because someone blew up the natural gas pipelines from Russia to Germany, and Germany had no choice but to cut industrial production to make up the shortfall.