[cyberax]

Hah. It used to be that Microsoft products were sleek, fast, and just plain more convenient than Open Source products. E.g. OpenOffice vs MS Office.

And honestly, OS stuff still often sucks quite a bit.

It's just that MS software has degraded to the point of utter shittiness (see: Teams) that now it's just plain worse than their own software from 15 years ago.

[StopDisinfo910]

> It's just that MS software has degraded to the point of utter shittiness (see: Teams) that now it's just plain worse than their own software from 15 years ago.

I sometimes feel like I live in a parallele universe reading the comments here on Office.

The addition of collaboration and how it seemlessly integrated with sharepoints while easing the sharing of documents make Office365 a blessing in most office environment. There is no way people are going back to sharing files like before after having worked this way.

[Ash_Crow]

This thread is comparing MS tools with the FR gov equivalents. So for word processing it would be Docs (https://docs.numerique.gouv.fr/home/), which is a collaborative tool, with an integrated sharing feature.

[cyberax]

Now look at Outlook. Or Skype.

And 15 years ago, we just used Office files in a Dropbox folder. It solved all of our collaboration issues.

[StopDisinfo910]

> And 15 years ago, we just used Office files in a Dropbox folder. It solved all of our collaboration issues.

No, it did not.

I worked through that. Someone had to be in charge of the master version of all documents and ensure modifications were properly merged and not done simultaneously. Getting to the final version of anything was deeply annoying.

Now everyone can just work on the shared document. You see modifications as they happen. Office intelligently locks what needs to be locked. It just works. I can't tell you how much time this feature alone saves me.

[cyberax]

I agree that the collaborative tools in the current office are better. It's just that they are not that _much_ better than before to justify all the negatives.

[bratwurst3000]

this! this is so true for every big corporation product. Iphone is a shitty version of iphones from 10 years ago but with better cameras…. and windows is spamming me hard with their services