[FiniteField]

Why does the technicality that red and grey squirrels are different species hold any weight to you? The effect is still the same: They are two discernibly different populations, of which one is on the decline in its native land alongside the increase of another. As humans, we are orders of magnitude more sensitive to population differences amongst humans than amongst squirrels. Squirrel populations do not have associated music, dress, religion, traditions, and so on. So the question remains: Why does the decline of a discernable population of squirrels carry immense sentimental weight to many people, but not the decline of an ethnic group? Especially when most people would give a very different answer if that ethnic group were, for example, Native American or Palestinian? The only answer to me is that people feel that they aren't allowed to hold these sentimental thoughts, and work to block them from their own mind.

[donkeybeer]

I am glad you mentioned religion. That's another thing that has done humanity far far more bad than good.

[donkeybeer]

I do not play favorites with nationalism. I have the same opinion of Arabic or Chinese or any other culture.

In any case, you are implying the ridiculous point that somehow culture is some telepathic magic that is inherent to the people who lived there from some completely arbitrary cut off point where you somehow think it drops out of thin air in the blood or something instead of something one is raised into. Do you think for example a british baby taken to afghanistan and raised by the Taliban would turn up to have English culture magically?

Extreme nationalism is a third world culture to me, I would consider a capitalist, liberal immigrant from say Egypt to be more European than a white nationalist. The far right causes problems for and has problems with far right from other places. White nationalists and Islamic extremists hating each other, and so on. I have never heard democratic capitalist people having issues with other democratic capitalist people. If you want to solve ethnic etc conflict I would say the surest shot approach to it is to suppress, deport, eliminate, deal with far right wingers of every stripe whether white or islamic or jewish or any other.

And lastly what exactly has nationalism given us? The bad far outweighs the good. For pithy stuff about language and food, you have genocides, warfare, bloodshed on the other end of the scale.

[donkeybeer]

And Palestinians are being genocided...again driven by nationalism and religion. Genocide and property crimes are obviously bad.

Whites aren't being genocided in England. If someone thinks that, then being a delusional snowflake somehow equating not having enough babies to other races genociding you is their mental problem, not mine.