[chneu]

This is a thing that I've noticed that some folks just can't understand: Nobody is going to leave an inside job for an outside job.

At least not a meaningful amount of people.

I now have a great office job but I grew up farming, ranching, doing construction, roofing, worked at dairies so I've seen first hand who is working these jobs.

It's not white Americans. This is something some people just can't understand. They just don't seem to grasp that the folks doing these jobs are either temporary labor brought in from other countries or illegal immigrants. The reason is because there isn't enough domestic labor willing to do these jobs.

[anonfordays]

>Nobody is going to leave an inside job for an outside job.

>At least not a meaningful amount of people.

I would say this is true, or generally true, if the pay for the trades stays where it is. If plumbers start making $80k+ out of school, and master plumbers start making $200k+, etc. many would leave their inside jobs for construction.

Americans are not going to leave AC and a nice office for $18 an hour.

[chneu]

I wasn't talking about the trades. I was talking about farm labor, general manual labor, etc.

Think farms, dairy, meat packing, etc. Entry level positions that americans will not go anywhere near.

[gowings97]

Bingo, again. If you pay them, they will come.

[pixl97]

We won't pay them because we are hooked on the idea shareholders deserve everything.