[fzeroracer]

You don't seem to have an actual argument, instead inventing a straw urbanist to fit your view of what's going on. You of all people should be able to fundamentally understand why people would want to advocate for things they want in areas they live.

[hollerith]

It is much much easier to move than to get the laws changed concerning what can be built where you live now. Rayiner is correctly pointing out that the revealed preferences of urbanist advocates differs from their professed preferences, which is a red flag.