[cyberax]

> Really surprised that I missed the wave on this and wonder if it was a "we want people to buy two things" rather than no one actually using it. Maybe I just have to wait for it to come back around?

It's worse. There are _no_ new stand-alone Thread Border Routers on the market. You might find old stock of GL.iNet routers, and I believe there were a couple of other experimental devices.

If you want a robust Matter network, your best bet is to use Apple or Google devices as border routers. Or you can use a USB ZigBee stick with HomeAssistant.

> [EDIT2] Nope, more confused. Multi-protocol antennas exist. Why is this not a set-and-forget option for all the routers???

No market demand, so router manufacturers just don't bother. The initial versions of Matter were a burning trash fire.

[hardwaresofton]

Thanks for the color here -- sad but I get it.

Sounds like we're almost there and Zigbee/Thread are at least supportable with the same hardware. I can work with that I guess!

> No market demand, so router manufacturers just don't bother. The initial versions of Matter were a burning trash fire.

I remember hearing about this -- they fixed/improved it eventually but I guess the damage was done.