[TheOtherHobbes]

I don't understand why this is being discussed rationally. The motivation to remove social security isn't economic or rational, it's political and psychological.

A small group of people considers itself superior to the rest of the population. As a group it is convinced it deserves every break, benefit, privilege, and handout, while the second group is only worthy of intrusive oversight, abuse, exploitation, and punishment.

This isn't hyperbole. This is the political belief system that drives the rhetoric about the government spending and debt.

The proof is simple - government debt always increases when the first group is in power.

Always.

This wouldn't happen if it was really about the deficit.

[const_cast]

> The motivation to remove social security isn't economic or rational, it's political and psychological.

Yes this is it and this is all it ever was. The second the pen was put to paper and SS was made law it has been under attack. People have been proclaiming it'll go insolvent any day now for almost a century.

It's an ideological attack and we shouldn't even humor these people. The idea of essentially retirement insurance feels unfair to a ton of people and that's that.