[nopinsight]

With Agentic RL training and sufficient data, AI operating at the level of average senior engineers should become plausible in a couple to a few years.

Top-tier engineers who integrate a deep understanding of business and user needs into technical design will likely be safe until we get full-fledged AGI.

[yahoozoo]

Why in a few years? What training data is missing that we can’t have senior level agents today?

[nopinsight]

Training data, esp interaction data from agentic coding tools, are important for that. See also: Windsurf acquisition.

[DanielVZ]

On the other hand I’m pretry sure you will need senior engineers not only for designing but debugging. You don’t want to hit a wall when your Agentic coder hits a bug that it just won’t fix.

[nopinsight]

There’s a recent article with experiments suggesting LLMs are better at bug fixing than coding, iirc. It’s from a company with a relevant product though.

[eru]

Why do you expect AIs to learn programming, but not debugging?

[ZephyrBlu]

1) Debugging is much harder than writing code that works

2) AIs are demonstrably much, much worse at debugging code than writing fresh code

Ex: "Oh, I see the problem! Let me fix that" -> proceeds to create a new bug while not fixing the old one

[eru]

Debugging is harder for humans, too.