[scarface_74]

But you trust Google, Gmail and a host of other online service providers? How do you know that Google isn’t using your email to train? You either have to trust your service providers or don’t use them.

This is like the early days when people didn’t trust buying things over the internet

[throwaway519]

> This is like the early days when people didn’t trust buying things over the internet

If you like bad analogies, why not do car analogies? For example, at least this one's accurate:

I wouldn't trust Sam Altman any more than a used car salesman. The only difference is, Sam Altman's persuaded me to pay him to sell me as a the product.

[scarface_74]

But you’re already trusting Google I assume with your data or Apple who is training AI models. There is no diffeevcd

[throwaway519]

Victim to Google indeed if I email someone at GMail.

I do not use Apple devices, and I do not use Google services. While certainly not the majority, I don't this is that an unusual position on HN.

[scarface_74]

You think the majority of HN is that much different than the rest of the population that uses either iPhones or Android devices running stock Android?