[chneu]

>The commenter I responded to said that people don't need to eat animal products to live at optimal health, which is laughable, and this is an incredibly clear example of why. A quick google search will illuminate the dangers of B12 deficiency.

Supplementing b-12 is easy. Getting it from natural vegan sources isn't hard.

It's wild the things people choose to believe about veganism or dieting in general.

You're either making wild assumptions or you've read some real sketchy stuff about dieting. Either way what you said isn't true and you seem to be repeating Joe Rogan type stuff about vegan diets.

[doctordemen]

> You're either making wild assumptions or you've read some real sketchy stuff about dieting. Either way what you said isn't true and you seem to be repeating Joe Rogan type stuff about vegan diets.

Huh?

> Supplementing b-12 is easy. Getting it from natural vegan sources isn't hard.

Citation needed.

[chneu]

You're making claims to begin with. Please cite your sources on B-12 and the other claims you've made. You're saying things that smell of bias. It also appears you're ignoring evidence that contradicts what you're saying, or at least choosing to not take it seriously.

I've been vegan for years. This stuff aint hard. The way people talk about vegan diets is wild. Vegan b-12 is easy to get, lol. Next you're going to claim that it's impossible to eat enough protein on a vegan diet, lol.

The way you speak about diets and vegan stuff smells very heavily of "bro beef pseudoscience" that's popular in the Joe Rogain type circles. I wouldn't be surprised if you claim the carnivore diet is the peak human diet. That's what I mean. You're repeating things that are not difficult to prove wrong with an air of superiority. It comes off as very "I know stuff you do not" which is very prevalent in the Joe Rogain circles.

[doctordemen]

> It also appears you're ignoring evidence that contradicts what you're saying, or at least choosing to not take it seriously.

Do comments on HN count as "evidence" to you?

> You're repeating things that are not difficult to prove wrong with an air of superiority.

I guess we're cut from the same cloth then.

Please drop the ad hominems, they do not serve to strengthen your argument. I have no idea what Joe Rogan circles talk about, eat beef at most 1x per month, and despise those who would reduce every discussion to culture war.

I'm asking a simple question, for my education. Can you provide a citation or any information about natural vegan B-12 sources? I haven't found anything, except that all vegan organizations recommend supplementing vegan diets with industrially synthesized B-12.

[const_cast]

> I haven't found anything, except that all vegan organizations recommend supplementing vegan diets with industrially synthesized B-12.

For those of us who are particularly frightened by fallacies of nature, have no fear: we already do this with a ton of nutrients and have for a long time. Iodine being the most obvious example. But almost every piece of food you can buy is going to be enriched in some way, even things like soda!